jps1926
Astro Ranger
by Kim
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Post by jps1926 on Apr 19, 2009 21:24:00 GMT -5
I was on ff.net today reading a new chapter of the story After The Storm by Kloi21. Of course it's a TK story. The chapter was fine, but what troubled me was her author's note at the end. I don't usually interfere with writers plans, but I can't help it this time. Here is what she posted:
*Okay, as hard as this is for me to say, i think i'm on hiatus, i have been reading a lot of P.R stuff and after reading an interview with Catherine Sutheland ono '' i realised that including her- everyone thought Tommy and Kat ended up together. Because i didn't watch Zeo/Turbo i didn't realise the feeling was so strong. I always thought... maybe immaturaly, that everyone felt like me- that Tommy and Kim were supposed to be together. l'm now struggling with a resolution...
If she just wanted to take a break because she was tired of writing, I would understand. But her reasoning just bothered me. I don't know who she talked to, but I thought that some of us, especially the writers, could leave her some words of encouragement to continue to write TK stories. She's a member here, so I hope she reads what we have to say to at least reconsider going on hiatus.
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wk88
Astro Ranger
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Post by wk88 on Apr 19, 2009 22:54:14 GMT -5
Did Katherine and Tommy end up together in the end? Yes, by the show's standards they did. "A Season To Remember" showed them married with kids and grandchildren; it's canon and that's the sad reality of it, unless somewhere in the future Disney does something to retcon that (doubtful, but one can always hope).
Still, that shouldn't discourage anyone from writing what they want to write. Shawn, Kim, myself, and countless others...none of us would be writing very much in the way of Power Rangers fan fiction if we let what happened on-screen fully dictate what we wanted to write. Fan fiction is about writing what YOU believe. Yes, you're using someone else's characters, but it's still YOUR story. If you want Tommy and Kim to be together, then have them be together. Don't let other people's beliefs and opinions have a negative impact on your own.
That's all I can really say.
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Post by Kim on Apr 20, 2009 18:19:12 GMT -5
Don't forget one strong point - Dino Thunder is Canon as well, and Kat was no where to be seen let alone mentioned other than in the video diary. One of my favorite stories of all time is "A Season To Remember" by Cheryl Roberts and Dagmar Buse - in it, Tommy and Kat get married, and yes, they have mutual grandkids, but the story has them married to Kim and Jason and their own kids getting married at some point. And like WK said, most of us wouldn't be writing if we let what happened on screen dictate our writing. Besides, again, we don't know what happened after Dino Thunder ended, at least not for Tommy.
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shawn30
Wild Force Ranger
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Post by shawn30 on Apr 20, 2009 18:36:27 GMT -5
I was on ff.net today reading a new chapter of the story After The Storm by Kloi21. Of course it's a TK story. The chapter was fine, but what troubled me was her author's note at the end. I don't usually interfere with writers plans, but I can't help it this time. Here is what she posted: *Okay, as hard as this is for me to say, i think i'm on hiatus, i have been reading a lot of P.R stuff and after reading an interview with Catherine Sutheland ono '' i realised that including her- everyone thought Tommy and Kat ended up together. Because i didn't watch Zeo/Turbo i didn't realise the feeling was so strong. I always thought... maybe immaturaly, that everyone felt like me- that Tommy and Kim were supposed to be together. l'm now struggling with a resolution...If she just wanted to take a break because she was tired of writing, I would understand. But her reasoning just bothered me. I don't know who she talked to, but I thought that some of us, especially the writers, could leave her some words of encouragement to continue to write TK stories. She's a member here, so I hope she reads what we have to say to at least reconsider going on hiatus. First off, this is a very sweet thing that you're doing. Caring about the authors you enjoy speaks so highly of you and while I was sad to hear a author was considering stopping to write, I was pleased that you cared enough to address it. Okay, to the author in question, I am of two trains of thought. A, this is a TV show and Tommy and Kim did not break up because the writers wanted to go in a different direction. AJJ was ready to depart, and I think the writers began realising that the TK dynamic was a big part of the show. Romance usually is for the pre-teen crowd. So when Kim left this wasn't a statement by the writers on TK, nor was the episode "Season to Remember" IMHO. That episode exists and seems to say that Tommy and Kat do marry someday and become parents and grandparents. That's fine, as the show was hoping someone would want to latch onto TomKat as a ship and really make it special. It never happened. Everything that transpired did so, like every other show, according to the circumstances left to the powers that be when actors choose to leave/writers want to go in a different direction. In PR's case, AJJ was as important to the show as JDF. But the writers were stuck in a corner and tried to force feed TomKat. So please, even though Season to Remember exists, understand that if the writers had their way TK would have stayed together until series end. Don't allow yourself to be discouraged by an actors opinion as she simply gave her opinion based on what was filmed. But the reality is AJJ decided to leave and the writers were trying so hard to make TomKat the new "It" couple. It just never worked, hence TK's massive following some 15 years later. Please do continue to write TK as your inspiration calls for, and enjoy the CS enjoy for what it is. A nice one with a good person who was once on one of our favorite shows. WARNING: PROFANITY AHEAD! Canon, in the PR universe is like trying to soak up the Atlantic Ocean with one roll of three ply toliet paper. It just ain't ever gonna happen. It makes about as much sense as holding a AA meeting at a bar. Here's the thing. Was "Season to Remember" filmed? Yes. Did it air as a PR epsisode? Yes. Does it show a older Tommy and a older Kat married with a son who is a PR and a grandson? Yes. Do I give a fuck? Hell to the N'all!!! The writers of "Season to Remember" don't possesses the combined mental juice to fuel a flea motorcycle around the inside of a mother fucking Fruit Loop. And I mean that respectfully. The amount of TomKat fans out there could barely fill up a McDonalds resturant on a Saturday afternoon. TomKat, bless the actors souls, was so boring that litterally watching paint dry put me in a more romantic mood. Mind you, I don't blame the actors. Its just, chemistry is either there or it isn't. With TomKat, its like watching your parents have sex. You see it once and pray to God you never, ever see it again. And then you put it out of your mind forever and go on with your life. So no, despite whatever took place in Season to Remember, the only memory I have is of the massive, hardcore Tommy and KImberly Hart-Oliver fans that have held strong to that ship both in writing, art, creativity, websites, and foums for well over 15 years while TomKat remains at best ignored, at worst considered the worst couple in PR history. Thank you for listening to my rant. NOW DON'T YOU DARE STOP WRITING!!! Signed, The King of TK *smirk* |
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Post by Kim on Apr 20, 2009 18:53:38 GMT -5
OMG......Shawn, you never cease to amaze me, and can I just say, I read your post to my mother, who asked me why I was laughing like a hyena, and she said you're an extremely talented writer (like I didn't already know that) and she died laughing right along with me.  Good advice Bro! |
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Post by mylastdance on Apr 20, 2009 18:59:03 GMT -5
I was on ff.net today reading a new chapter of the story After The Storm by Kloi21. Of course it's a TK story. The chapter was fine, but what troubled me was her author's note at the end. I don't usually interfere with writers plans, but I can't help it this time. Here is what she posted: *Okay, as hard as this is for me to say, i think i'm on hiatus, i have been reading a lot of P.R stuff and after reading an interview with Catherine Sutheland ono '' i realised that including her- everyone thought Tommy and Kat ended up together. Because i didn't watch Zeo/Turbo i didn't realise the feeling was so strong. I always thought... maybe immaturaly, that everyone felt like me- that Tommy and Kim were supposed to be together. l'm now struggling with a resolution...If she just wanted to take a break because she was tired of writing, I would understand. But her reasoning just bothered me. I don't know who she talked to, but I thought that some of us, especially the writers, could leave her some words of encouragement to continue to write TK stories. She's a member here, so I hope she reads what we have to say to at least reconsider going on hiatus. First off, this is a very sweet thing that you're doing. Caring about the authors you enjoy speaks so highly of you and while I was sad to hear a author was considering stopping to write, I was pleased that you cared enough to address it. Okay, to the author in question, I am of two trains of thought. A, this is a TV show and Tommy and Kim did not break up because the writers wanted to go in a different direction. AJJ was ready to depart, and I think the writers began realising that the TK dynamic was a big part of the show. Romance usually is for the pre-teen crowd. So when Kim left this wasn't a statement by the writers on TK, nor was the episode "Season to Remember" IMHO. That episode exists and seems to say that Tommy and Kat do marry someday and become parents and grandparents. That's fine, as the show was hoping someone would want to latch onto TomKat as a ship and really make it special. It never happened. Everything that transpired did so, like every other show, according to the circumstances left to the powers that be when actors choose to leave/writers want to go in a different direction. In PR's case, AJJ was as important to the show as JDF. But the writers were stuck in a corner and tried to force feed TomKat. So please, even though Season to Remember exists, understand that if the writers had their way TK would have stayed together until series end. Don't allow yourself to be discouraged by an actors opinion as she simply gave her opinion based on what was filmed. But the reality is AJJ decided to leave and the writers were trying so hard to make TomKat the new "It" couple. It just never worked, hence TK's massive following some 15 years later. Please do continue to write TK as your inspiration calls for, and enjoy the CS enjoy for what it is. A nice one with a good person who was once on one of our favorite shows. WARNING: PROFANITY AHEAD! Canon, in the PR universe is like trying to soak up the Atlantic Ocean with one roll of three ply toliet paper. It just ain't ever gonna happen. It makes about as much sense as holding a AA meeting at a bar. Here's the thing. Was "Season to Remember" filmed? Yes. Did it air as a PR epsisode? Yes. Does it show a older Tommy and a older Kat married with a son who is a PR and a grandson? Yes. Do I give a fuck? Hell to the N'all!!! The writers of "Season to Remember" don't possesses the combined mental juice to fuel a flea motorcycle around the inside of a mother fucking Fruit Loop. And I mean that respectfully. The amount of TomKat fans out there could barely fill up a McDonalds resturant on a Saturday afternoon. TomKat, bless the actors souls, was so boring that litterally watching paint dry put me in a more romantic mood. Mind you, I don't blame the actors. Its just, chemistry is either there or it isn't. With TomKat, its like watching your parents have sex. You see it once and pray to God you never, ever see it again. And then you put it out of your mind forever and go on with your life. So no, despite whatever took place in Season to Remember, the only memory I have is of the massive, hardcore Tommy and KImberly Hart-Oliver fans that have held strong to that ship both in writing, art, creativity, websites, and foums for well over 15 years while TomKat remains at best ignored, at worst considered the worst couple in PR history. Thank you for listening to my rant. NOW DON'T YOU DARE STOP WRITING!!! Signed, The King of TK *smirk* *claps* bravo! lol..  |
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White Firebird
Operation Overdrive Ranger
heaven must be just like this
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Post by White Firebird on Apr 20, 2009 19:42:51 GMT -5
Everything I was going to say was just said lol...indeed, bravo, Shawn!
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jps1926
Astro Ranger
by Kim
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Post by jps1926 on Apr 20, 2009 19:47:05 GMT -5
Thanks Shawn. Even though I don't write fan fiction, I do write poetry so I know the time and effort you guys put into your work. And to see people appreciate it makes it worth it. So I feel like I have to show my appreciation.
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rapunzl
Wild Force Ranger
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Post by rapunzl on Apr 21, 2009 14:58:21 GMT -5
Holy cripes, Shawn. You are my hero.  My only additional comment is that, although "Season to Remember" technically aired... there was absolutely no context to it. No preliminary scene, nothing - it was just a stupid future scenario with no real reasoning nor explanation to it. I agree with Shawn in that the writers were attempting to force feed us TomKat, and I also agree that (for the most part) it failed miserably. The way that "Season to Remember" was shot leaves me to believe that the writers were attempting to give themselves an opening for Tommy/Kim (let me live in my delusion, please). To me, there is no guarantee that this future will take place - it could have been a hopeful daydream by a delusioned Kat (delusioned in that she thought she was better with Tommy than Kim), a wandering thought by a pensive Tommy trying to determine if he did have a future with Katherine... or, at best, a look into one of an infinite number of possible futures. Not to get all theoretical physicist on you, but every decision a person makes affects their future in some way; Tommy choosing to take a right turn at an intersection instead of a left could have changed that future dramatically. Personally, I have written off that episode as Tommy's nightmare due to indigestion from eating a burger not purchased at Ernie's. I dare you to prove otherwise. ;D |
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disparate
Operation Overdrive Ranger
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Post by disparate on Apr 21, 2009 20:44:35 GMT -5
My $0.02! Canon in PR is so, so easily changed. A Season To Remember is one of the many possible futures the characters of the show might embark on. This future string is shown before both Blue Senturion's intrusion in an attempt to change history in 1997, and Omega Ranger in 2025, or if Time Force didn't come back to save the world, everything would've been sucked into a time hole vortex; but even stripping the future seasons of its plot devices, Tommy and Kat's grandson was wearing one of Zordon's communicator. And where would Zordon be by then, hmm? Honestly though, personally I write fic for two reasons: To embellish a scene that has happened in canon, or to "right a wrong", that being the most pretentious thing I could ever say about fic writing If every fic writer works with a story within the set canon, we readers will be in for a very boring time. How many times can you read about basically the same thing over? So what I want to say is, write because you want to write what you love. |
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Post by kloi21 on Apr 27, 2009 17:14:32 GMT -5
Hey, i just wanted to say a MASSIVE thankyou to jps1926 for her concern, as you probably all know she is one of the best reader/reviewers that you will find. i do have to admit to feeling a little embarressed by the whole thing but i just wanted to say thankyou so much for all of your input, its really made me realise that being a T/K fan is a team endevour. Thankyou so much jps1926 and everyone else that replied, you have no idea how much i appreciate it x
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Post by ~*Cathy*~ on May 9, 2009 18:23:17 GMT -5
Well, I'm a bit late to the party here, but I have to just say "WOW!" Well said by everyone who put in their opinions. We are such a passionate group, and it warms my heart to see everyone giving such wonderful words of encouragement to a fellow TKer who was feeling down about the whole thing.
jps1926, you are a doll for starting this thread.
We just kick so much ass! LOL *Big Hugs* to you all!!
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Good advice Bro!
