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Post by Terra on Mar 11, 2008 19:32:24 GMT -5
Why DO you think Kim wrote the letter to Tommy? Do you really believe she found someone else or do you think there was another reason behind it?
Share with me what you think?
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Post by ~*Cathy*~ on Mar 11, 2008 20:02:31 GMT -5
WOW, this could be a loaded question. LOL
No, I personally don't think that Kim found someone else. I thought then, and will always believe that she and Tommy really loved each other. I know that the Kim from the beginning of the show could be a little "flighty" but I never would have pegged her for someone who could/would be unfaithful. Zordon wouldn't have picked her as one of his Rangers if she didn't have strong values and beliefs (and all the other characteristics we know he chose them for). You will NEVER get me to believe that she left him for someone else.
Therefore, I have to surmise that she did it for another reason. Now what exactly that reason is, I don't know. Over the years I've read some WONDERFUL fics that have great theories for Kim having written the letter, and I could believe them. I've just still yet to make up my mind on the why. LOL
Good question though! Anyone else got any theories?
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Post by Terra on Mar 11, 2008 20:19:38 GMT -5
Well I am waiting for a few others to give their thoughts then I might give mine up here .. however I just wrote a bit of a drabble on the subject so I may save my response for when I post that and link back to it. LOL So anyone else... come I wanna here EVERYONE's thoughts!!!
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Post by Kim on Mar 12, 2008 13:08:39 GMT -5
This whole subject pains me to no end, because I loved them together. While I don't think Kim, or even Tommy for that matter, ever truly stopped loving one another, I think that, considering the way their lives were going at the time, Kim did it because she saw them growing apart, too far apart for that age and what was happening in their separate lives for them to hold onto what they had and still make it work, and I think that maybe, she could have found someone else, someone she thought at that time and in that place that could understand a lot better what she was going through then Tommy. You have to remember that Tommy had a lot of responsibility on his shoulders at that time, and she was no longer part of his world, and it probably was really hard to keep going and have so little time to be in contact with each other.
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Post by shawn30 on Jun 9, 2008 21:03:08 GMT -5
Why DO you think Kim wrote the letter to Tommy? Do you really believe she found someone else or do you think there was another reason behind it? Share with me what you think? First off, I'd like to thank Terra for starting this thread as I have three thoeries myself on why Kim wrote the most infamous Letter Noah sent his good buddy Paul a letter that didn't reach him about a big rainfall coming and this boat he was making. 1. Kim was rooming with a girl named Pam. Pam was addicted to Hostess cupcakes, The View, and midget wrestling. Clearly, she was disturbed and jealous of Kim's wonderful life, as she was a Pan Global hopeful, dating a great guy, and seemed to nice to be real. Pam had no friends except her imaginary parrot Oscar. She couldn't stand Kim's all night phone conversations with Tommy and hearing about how happy the former Pink Ranger was. So one day she came up with the nefarious plot to take away what Kim held most dear. Pam, posessing second grade education and first grade writing skills stole some of Kim's personal stationary and wrote a letter, hoping that Kim's boyfriends legendary bad memory might aid her in not recodnizing the difference in the handwriting. Pam wrote the most detailed, frank, honest from the heart dramatic letter ever in which she laid out exactly why Kim couldn't be with Tommy anymore. Having no clue of Tommy's address, Kim often spoke of a magical place known as the Youth Center. A place where good, wholesome teenagers met each day to work out, drink smoothies hi-five each other, clean up the communnity, and never ever talk about or have sex, curse, lie, cheat, or steal. Such a utopia had to be where Tommy relaxed at, so Pam sent the letter there. It was all Pam's fault. Years later she is serving double life in San Quentin for trying to have sex with a grizzely bear. 2. Tommy, posessing a hidden secret personality known as Stevey Lonely, wrote himself the leter to break up with Kim because Stevey could never take control of Tommy's life, so he took away the one thing Tommy loved most. So Tommy wrote the letter to himself, addressed it to the Youth Center as he forgot his own address at the time, and broke up with himself. Yeah, I see you reading this.... smiling... laughing... wondering if Shawn has lost his mind. WELL HE HASN'T YET!!! WHAT, CAN'T A MAN WRITE SERIOUS DRAMATIC MATURE ROMANCE AND SEXUAL RELATIONS ABOUT FICTIONAL CHARACTERS WHO ONCE WORE SPANDEX AND NOT BE PAID A CENT NO MATTER HOW MANY PAGES HIS STORIES ARE?!!! CAN'T A GROWN MAN IN HIS THIRTIES WRITE POWER RANGER STORIES TO HIS HEARTS CONTENT WHILE GIVING TOMMY AND KIM BACK THE FAIRYTALE THEY DESERVE!!! CAN'T A MAN SEE THE HIGH COST OF GAS AND BLAME LORD ZEDD!!! *watches Kim approach with straightjacket... clicks heels while repeating there's no place like home there's no place like home* 3. Dumb, cheap, untalented hack producers try to force feed the zero chemistry of Tommy/Kat on us by writing a letter that would insult a twelve year old in love much less the ready to graduate Tommy. Deciding that they need romance no matter how many fans wrote in that seeing Tommy/Kat had the same effect on them as sleeping pills, they disgraced the holy Ship for the SS Snoozefest that was TomKat. Alas, we fans sufffered until fanfiction was created. That's all I got, lol. S
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Post by Kim on Jun 9, 2008 21:05:40 GMT -5
*points at Shawn's answer* I have to agree with that man...when he's right, he's right!
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Post by falconzord on Jun 9, 2008 22:29:04 GMT -5
While I find Shawn's answers to be highly amusing maybe I'm the only that thinks cannon is true because let's face it Kim was 17 years old and guess what NO 17 year old is prepared for a long distance relationship so guess what as much as this pains me to say this and it does pain me but here's what I think Kim cheated on Tommy. Plain and simple 17 year old with a lot of pressure with her training needs a bf who can be there for her and when the bf is the leader of the Power Rangers she doesn't have that so she searches else where. Really though it was unfair because Tommy was left with meh looking Kat so he really had to lower his standards.
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Post by lilsmiles on Jun 10, 2008 2:53:11 GMT -5
You know... I actually liked Kat... *runs from the thrown rocks* I think TomKat (not the couch jumping - Suri bearing duo) was doomed from the start and I didn't care for the coupling as there was a serious lack of chemistry. But Kat herself, I liked. I guess it's my inner swimmer talking. Anyhow, here's a somewhat plausible explanation for the letter... Kim loved Tommy. It was one of those once in a lifetime kind of loves and it showed in the way they were around each other - the kisses, the looks, the hugs... And I know they were just high school kids and that people change but I'd like to believe that if two people are meant to be... There's that spark that can't be rationalized with age... The only problem was that their love needed physicality and presence... And Kim knew that so the letter was her way of letting go... Letting Tommy, the love of her life, a chance to fall in love again... Because she knew that holding on, would hurt both of them in the long run if they were to be apart... I think secretly, she wanted Tommy to fight for their love... Only he didn't because he knew deep down what Kim was trying to do... There was this mutual understanding that maybe someday in the unforeseen future, that love would bring them back together again... Okay, yeah, I'm a real die-hard romantic...
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Post by ~*Cathy*~ on Jun 10, 2008 3:57:50 GMT -5
*looks at Rach* *looks at the GIGANTIC rock she was about to hurl* *looks at Rach* *puts down Rock*
*sniff* Rach, that was beautiful, you sappy romantic you! LOL
But seriously, I do agree with you. I just can never believe that Kim fell for another man, and that she wrote the crap about Tommy being like a brother to her. *shakes head* Uh-Uh, no WAY! But I CAN believe that she (and Tommy) was mature enough to realize that they couldn't do the long distance thing, and so she came up with the letter as a way to make it "easier" on them. I can accept that he didn't "fight" for her, as he was hurting, but he also realized that while he was there in AG, and she was in FL, they just couldn't work.
Zordon had reasons for choosing them as Rangers (morals, honor, determination, etc), and not some other teenagers, and it doesn't make any sense to me that Kim could then turn out to be the kind of person who cheats on the person they love. I was Kim's age when the letter was written, I can remember the kinds of feelings that you have (I'm not that old! lol), but I just can't wrap my head around it actually going down as it did. That was total crap with a capital "C" that the writers tried to feed us! If they had just said, 'It's over.' or 'I've found someone else.' I could have and would have accepted it -honest! *tries to look sincere* The thing that did it for me was the 'you're like a brother to me'... there is nothing about their relationship that was sibling like! Never was, from beginning to end, and nothing you (the writers) can say will ever change my mind. She and Jason were like brother and sister, not her and Tommy.
So, with that being said, let me go back to why I was gonna throw the rock at you. ;P LOL I'm one of those people who just never could warm up to Kat. I didn't like her from the moment she stole Kim's coin, and I could tell she liked Tommy, which didn't sit well with me (nobody messes with my TK! LOL). The character always seemed forced to me, I'm not sure if that's the actresses fault, or the writers fault, but that's neither here nor there. I'm one of those people who, for good or bad, is all about first impressions. And once my favorable opinion is lost, it's lost for good. :/ It's my biggest fault (notice I don't say ONLY! LOL).
I always thought of her as a Kimberly wannabe, a replacement if you will, of which she could never be. Kimberly was my fave Ranger from day one (hell, I wanted to be Kimberly! even though I HATED the color pink! LOL), and along comes Kat to take her place... so, yeah, I just can't stand her. Sorry to those of you who like Kat, I just can't like her (from the show anyway. explanation of that comment will be given if needed/wanted).
And I never saw ANY chemistry between her and Tommy. From day one, Tommy was only interested in her as a friend (I know that she had a little "thing" for him though), and I just couldn't see any spark there that would lead me to believe that one day they could be more than that. The spark is either there from day one, or it's not, you can't force it. (I have a real live, personal example of this if needed too!)
Maybe I could have swallowed the whole thing, had just two little things been different. Number one, Kim NOT doing the "brother" thing. And number two, Tommy NOT ending up with Kat. *sigh* I still wouldn't have liked them breaking up my beloved couple, but I could have delt a little better with it.
Okay, I've rambled enough, and it's so late (or early, depending on how you look at it) I'm not sure that much of this makes any sense. If not, forgive me. If it does "ROCK ON"! LOL
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Post by ~*Cathy*~ on Jun 10, 2008 4:10:36 GMT -5
*whispers to Shawn* The View wasn't on back in those days. Nice try though with that theory. *stops whispering*
Are you psychic and didn't tell me? You just knew back then there would some day be a show called The View, and it would be very popular? What else are you withholding from me?
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Post by shawn30 on Jun 10, 2008 7:58:55 GMT -5
*whispers to Shawn* The View wasn't on back in those days. Nice try though with that theory. *stops whispering*
Are you psychic and didn't tell me? You just knew back then there would some day be a show called The View, and it would be very popular? What else are you withholding from me? Cathy dear, my secrets include Colonel Sanders original chicken recipe when he lived in Topeka, Kansas and called his works Topeka Kansas Fried Chicken long before he relocated to Kentucky. But that's a story for another day, lol. Rach, I tend to agree with you as well that there wasn;'t another guy, but another life. She was hundreds of miles away from home, working so hard to fulfill her dream of the Pan Globals and making new friends that for a 17 year old, holding the past and present together may have been to hard. I could imagine her regretting how she handeled things later on in life, but she was only 17 and nothing is promised to you at that age. I think eventually there was a guy in Florida as that's life, but for the sake of the letter I don't think there was one. And I'm also a big Kat fan depite what I wrote. I love the character, just not with Tommy as watching them together was as entertaining as watching paint dry. I'm a hopeless romantic as well, but don't tell anyone:) Topeka Kansas Fried Chicken recipe Prep: 15 min; Cook: 30 min - Medium Difficulty Serves 4 IF you are expert at frying, skip to the ingredients. FOR this Kentucky fried chicken recipe, you can use lard, crisco (shortening), or one of the vegetable oils. You can also add butter, if you choose, skimming off any foam that rises to the top while heating the oil. You can toss in chunks of ham or bacon to add flavor. Crucial are the skillet or pan, and the temperature of the oil. On my first try the oil was too hot; the result was burned, undercooked chicken. Oil that is not hot enough will not deliver crisp chicken. IDEAL frying temperature is about 365 degrees F (185 C) - ascertained with a frying thermometer or by dropping a 2" square of bread in the hot oil - it should turn golden brown in about 60 seconds. WHEN you have the right temperature, add the pieces slowly, one by one, and do not crowd them. Be patient and do two or more batches, if you must. INGREDIENTS: 1 good chicken (Kosher or 'natural' chickens are usually best), cut into serving pieces, or use 8 to 10 leg pieces (drumsticks and thighs), trimmed of excess fat. AND 1 tablespoon curry powder 1/2 teaspoon ground allspice OR fines herbes mix: 1 tsp chopped tarragon 1 tsp chopped chervil 1 tsp chopped chives 1 tsp chopped parsley (or any combination of the above, plus whatever else you fancy) PLUS 1 - 2 cloves garlic, minced 1 tsp cayenne pepper (more or less to taste) 1 egg 1 cup flour Salt and pepper to taste Enough oil or lard to fill skillet to a depth of about 1/2" - lard, lard and butter combined or vegetable: Crisco shortening, corn, canola, peanut. Canola or corn oil imparts the least flavor, lard the most. Crisco shortening seems to result in the 'crispest' chicken. Canola is considered the healthiest. Large heavy skillet or casserole with cover; large mixing bowl; tongs or a big fork for handling chicken pieces, frying thermometer (ideally). IN a bowl, mix chicken with salt, pepper, spices, garlic, chili, egg and 2 tablespoons water. When thoroughly combined, blend in flour, using your hands. Keep mixing until most of the flour is blended with other ingredients and chicken is coated (add more water or flour if mixture is too thin or too dry; it should be dry but not powdery and not too wet - it has to adhere to the chicken). ADD enough fat (oil) to your skillet to come to a depth of about 1/2 inch and turn heat to medium. If you are using butter, skim any foam as it rises to the surface. WHEN oil is hot (see introductory paragraphs) raise heat to high. Slowly add chicken pieces to skillet. Cover skillet, reduce heat to medium (more or less - oil should sizzle but not smoke) and cook for 7 minutes. UNCOVER skillet, turn chicken and continue to cook, uncovered, for another 7 minutes. TURN chicken again and cook for about 5 minutes more, turning as necessary to ensure that both sides are golden brown. REMOVE chicken from skillet and drain on paper towels placed on newspaper (for additional absorption). Serve chicken immediately, or cold. For Cathy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! S
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Post by falconzord on Jun 10, 2008 11:55:38 GMT -5
Anyhow, here's a somewhat plausible explanation for the letter... Kim loved Tommy. It was one of those once in a lifetime kind of loves and it showed in the way they were around each other - the kisses, the looks, the hugs... And I know they were just high school kids and that people change but I'd like to believe that if two people are meant to be... There's that spark that can't be rationalized with age... The only problem was that their love needed physicality and presence... And Kim knew that so the letter was her way of letting go... Letting Tommy, the love of her life, a chance to fall in love again... Because she knew that holding on, would hurt both of them in the long run if they were to be apart... I think secretly, she wanted Tommy to fight for their love... Only he didn't because he knew deep down what Kim was trying to do... There was this mutual understanding that maybe someday in the unforeseen future, that love would bring them back together again... Okay, yeah, I'm a real die-hard romantic... lilsmiles please don't take this as sarcasm or flaming but seriously that's probably the oldest load of crap that fanfic authors have been giving us since PR fanfics first got wide attention by PR fans. The basis for your theory is that Kim was trying to be nice and save Tommy hurt but really if she wanted to do that why wouldn't she just call and say Tommy were both to busy with life to have a long distance relationship so I love you but I think it's best we just move on but instead of that she decides that it'll be easier to send a letter saying she was cheating on him. I don't know about you but as a guy I would rather my girlfriend just tell me what I said or at least the gist of it instead of I'm cheating on you. So in my mind that basic fact debunks your idea.
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Post by lilsmiles on Jun 10, 2008 23:28:41 GMT -5
Fair enough, it's your opinion... That being said I still think it's a little harsh calling someone else's opinion a load of crap... Everyone is entitled to their own and if you disagree, you disagree, everyone is different... There just needs to be respect for all thoughts. Maybe Kim did meet a guy, maybe she didn't, only the writers will really know... And if it were me, it would be way too hard to do it over the phone or in person... Call me chicken... Deep fried chicken... Hehehe... get it, get it?!?! Shawn, I'm going to have to try that recipe it looks finger lickin' grood!!! Yes, I said grood
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Post by ~*Cathy*~ on Jun 10, 2008 23:34:28 GMT -5
Okay, you're chicken! LOL (you're too funny!) But I agree with you too! There's no WAY I could have done it over the phone, and the one time I had to break up with my boyfriend in person, it about killed me.
And yes, the recipe looks very tasty, I forgot to thank Shawn for that earlier. Sorry Shawn! LOL
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Post by lilsmiles on Jun 10, 2008 23:39:46 GMT -5
*does the funky chicken dance*
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Post by falconzord on Jun 11, 2008 15:34:01 GMT -5
Fair enough, it's your opinion... That being said I still think it's a little harsh calling someone else's opinion a load of crap... Everyone is entitled to their own and if you disagree, you disagree, everyone is different... There just needs to be respect for all thoughts. Maybe Kim did meet a guy, maybe she didn't, only the writers will really know... And if it were me, it would be way too hard to do it over the phone or in person... Call me chicken... Deep fried chicken... Hehehe... get it, get it?!?! Shawn, I'm going to have to try that recipe it looks finger lickin' grood!!! Yes, I said grood First off is every body entitled to their own opinion? yes and no but if your going to have a opinion expect to have people call them a load of crap every once and a while and don't take it personally. As to your second comment take it from a guy who has had girls break up with him via email,text,their friends, personally, and phone call it's much easier to hear it directly phone call or in person so going by your theory of Kim being nice the nice thing would be imo for Kim just to take 5min to make the call. So still Kim was a mean ho.
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Post by ~*Cathy*~ on Jun 11, 2008 16:28:06 GMT -5
K, Phillip as much as I hate to do this, this is a warning. I'm tired of you showing disrespect for the board members here. I let Rach respond to your last post, but this one just pissed me the fuck off!
Sure, you're entitled to your opinion and can voice it, but you WILL.DO.SO in a polite manner. Telling someone their opinion is CRAP is NOT the way to do it. You could have simply said, "that's a bunch of bull" (it was the word you chose to use that made it offensive to so many of us. yes, I had complaints about your response that didn't come from Rach), or better yet kept your mouth shut, cuz I'm really starting to believe that you don't know HOW to respond to someone who doesn't agree with you in a civil manner. I was hoping that you'd taken the hint from mine and your last "discussion", but apparently not. If you can't respect our opinions and treat us as an adult, then simply don't reply to our posts.
And just how in the hell are we not supposed to take it personally when you tell us our theory is "crap"? I know that there are several of us who agree with Rach, it seems as though you're the minority here, but no one else is saying anything about your opinion, cuz we respect the fact that it's YOUR opinion, and we don't have to agree with it. That's why we were just leaving it be, and not addressing it. It's called, being mature and knowing when to say something, and when to NOT say something.
And then for your second point, no body asked you! We know that in the real world, it would be the nicer thing to break up in person (or at least on the phone) but this is a fucking TV show!! And even in the real world it doesn't always happen the way it should, yes people get break up letters, and text msgs, etc. And if it's so offensive to you that Kimberly sent him a breakup letter, and you feel she's a "mean ho" then why in the HELL are you even here at this board?! If you were a true TK shipper, you'd be showing a little more respect to the character, even though what she did was terrible (which I think we can all agree to, it was terrible of her to have sent the letter).
The warning is this: One more post where you are disprespectful of someone else's opinion, you're banned for three days. The next time it happens, a week. The third time, you're gone for good. I will NOT have people here who disprespect the rest of the members.
END.OF.DISCUSSION.
And before you say anything about it remember this: MY board, MY rules, MY desicion. You don't like it, you are free to leave at any time.
Dammit, now I gotta go calm down. This is totally ridiculous that I had to do this.
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Post by Kim on Jun 11, 2008 16:35:58 GMT -5
First of all it's a TV Show. Meant for us to have fun with. Second, guys do things like this to girls all the time - not saying it's right, and I'm not using it as an excuse, because it's not, but a lot of times, when GUYS DO THIS they don't get so much crap about it. It's called a double standard - cause when a girl does it, she gets nothing but grief about it and people call her bitch, whore and ho. No one's saying what happened wasn't cruel, it was, in possibly the worst way, and all of us wish to high heaven it hadn't happened, but it has, and it continues to happen every single day. PEOPLE MAKE BAD CHOICES!
Three, no one's name is Jesus Christ (Or whatever God you pray or don't pray to) therefore no one's perfect. Maybe you need to take a step back and not let personal feelings and experiences cloud your view of the characters. Kim Hart is a character, one who made mistakes, just like we all do. Every one of those characters made mistakes, they weren't perfect. Some tried killing their friends, some served evil, etc. Take a step back from it and try to remember, it was a character, on a tv show, and Amy Jo Johnson wasn't writing her part....a bunch of men and women in a stuffy little room on the Fox Studios lot were writing it. They wanted Tommy's heart broken so Kat could spend a season and a half mending it because with Kim gone, there was no established romance. Tommy and Kat had a friendship that started in MMPR 3 and continued on, they wanted to build on it and it blew up in their faces for the most part. Shit happens.
Lastly, I've held my tongue until now, because this is Cat's board, but you're stepping way out of line. Your maturity level is showing, and it doesn't match your age apparently. I usually try to give everyone a chance, but the snide comments, the disrepect of other people's opinions, it's not right. Calling other people's opinions crap and telling them they have to take that once in a while is a line of the deepest shit I've EVER heard. RESPECTING the fact that other people have DIFFERING opinions while MATURELY disagreeing is usually the best course of action. And don't stand there and say anyone jumped down your throat right off the bat - no one did that until now, and that's cause you're stepping too far out of line. And if Cat feels like banning me from the board, then so be it, because if people are going to sit around and be ASSHOLES to everyone, then I don't want to be here anymore. We're supposed to be enjoying the show, enjoying the characters, having fun, and respecting each other, but apparently, you think differently. Bashing the characters, any of them, is out of line. I'll be the first to admit I've done it before, but there's a certain amount of wisdom that comes with growing up and realizing that people are just that - people. Imperfect in every way, and the first person to tell me otherwise better tell me he's Jesus Christ or God.
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Post by ~*Cathy*~ on Jun 11, 2008 17:37:45 GMT -5
Note to Members: No further response to this situation is necessary (nor allowed).
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Post by kckatnip on Jun 13, 2008 4:26:52 GMT -5
so i figured i would post my reasoning behind this..before i read everyone elses cause that way i wont be embarssed if mine is stupid. here's kim in a totally new place, surrounded by people she doesnt know. She cant talk about most of her life in Ca, because well she was a spandax wearing superhero. Tommy and the gang are too busy fighting the bad guys to talk to her as much as she could, and then she hears about tommy and Kat playing married. That doesnt help so she decides that she should end the relationship because she is too far away. Thus she sends the letter because she is too scared to talk to tommy. She sends it to the youth center because at least her friends will be there with Tommy. Thats my reason because you could totaly tell Tommy was still in love with Kim in the Turbo movie..i mean look at his face when he sees her in the viewing globe! I mean he freaking took off his helmet during a fight for a women he loved not his best friend. Thats about it i think...and if i forgot something opps..ive been up all night long, im a little out of it.
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Post by ~*Cathy*~ on Jun 13, 2008 4:33:50 GMT -5
Not stupid at all, I think you've made some valid points. Thanks for posting!
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Post by kckatnip on Jun 13, 2008 10:43:04 GMT -5
not a probleM! im loving it here...i finally get to post what i think! yay
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Post by Jade_Max on Jul 10, 2008 12:21:33 GMT -5
Ah, the letter.
The most controversial, debated and wondered about plot device if I've ever seen on for MMPR - in any season or incarnation.
I'm of two camps about this.
The first follows the canon time line - and takes what Kim wrote as fact. Yes, she did find someone "new", no she didn't intend to hurt Tommy - yet knew he wouldn't accept it at face value if she broke up with him any other way, and she was terrified of having to explain so took the coward's way out.
It fits - badly - but with her personality. Kim wouldn't have deliberately tried to hurt Tommy but knew it was going to any way she cut it. This way she didn't have to bear witness.
Now if you follow the canon timeline (based on the Turbo PR movie with Divatox) there's been confirmation that Jason/Kim were a couple. Hell, if you watch it with an open mind it's clearly obvious that Kim is "with" Jason - despite all the scenes it's said to have cut.
I don't like it, but that's one way I think about it - and a great way to create conflict. Tommy can't have known that the "other guy" was Jason - can you imagine what could have happened if he did?
That's the writer in my talking.
The other way I look at it is similar to the way that others in the fandom's has. Kim was alone, scared, far from home, overwhelmed etc etc and when there was no support forth coming from her friends - especially when she continued to write and likely got no responses (I can totally see Tommy forgetting to mail a letter) - decided living in the past was only a source of pain. No matter how much pleasure and support they gave her, when time passed without them nearby, it was time to more forward and not dwell in the past.
Hence the letter letting Tommy go - of course a part of me believes she did it as she did simply because she didn't want to give Tommy closure; she wanted him to come after her.
Tommy instead let her go.
Both mistakes on both their ends.
Makes for good angst, no?
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Post by shawn30 on Jul 10, 2008 13:55:49 GMT -5
"Now if you follow the canon timeline (based on the Turbo PR movie with Divatox) there's been confirmation that Jason/Kim were a couple. Hell, if you watch it with an open mind it's clearly obvious that Kim is "with" Jason - despite all the scenes it's said to have cut." Jademax, I just didn't ses any JK in the Turbo movie, and I had as open a mind as if I were being operated on by a brain surgeon. Now I agree with both camps you belong to as far as The Letter goes, and I know this is a bit off topic, but the only thing I think people try to use as signs that JK were together in the Turbo movie was that they were scuba diving alone at night. That scenedidn't have even an ounce of intimacy other than them being together. At no time did we even see them share a hug, and unless we count sexual tension as Kim swatting his shoulder later in the film, then I just didn't see anything onscreen that led me to thinking Jason was the Letter guy or even Mr. Right Now. I don't know anything about any scenes that were cut or even planned, but even with a open mind I think you gotta reach pretty hard to find JK in the horror that was Turbo A Power Rangers Movie. Here is the exact quote from www.imdb.com/title/tt0120389/trivia concerning anything JK related in Turbo. Amy Jo Johnson (Kimberly) and Austin St. John (Jason) were originally considered to reprise their roles not as captives of Divatox, but to serve as the Pink and Red Turbo Rangers when Nakia Burrise and Jason David Frank reportedly wanted to leave the series. This would have had Catherine Sutherland take over as the Yellow Turbo Ranger with the return of Jason and Kimberly to the "Power Rangers Turbo" TV series following the film. However, the idea was rejected when both actors declined, due to the exhausting work hours of the TV series. An original shooting script for this movie was originally going to include a romance between former Power Rangers Jason Lee Scott (Austin St. John) and Kimberly Ann Hart (Amy Jo Johnson). This would serve as a possible reason why both Kimberly's boyfriend and Jason's girlfriend Emily from "Power Rangers Zeo" were not mentioned or present for the film. While the romance was written out, the concerned and loving glances between Jason and Kimberly remain present throughout the film and it is believed that they end up dating during the movie and/or after the movie takes place." Okay, so while an original shooting script might of included it, when they finished the script and the crackhead who wrote that was fired (joking he was shot) they shelved it, never filmed, and the script they shot from had no JK in it. The person quoting the so called look of JK in the movie could be the writer of the article's POV and not from the person who gave him the info. Judging from what I saw in the film JK were not together in any way. Okay, that's my 2 cents, lol. JK exists in fanfic only, IMHO. S
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Post by Jade_Max on Jul 11, 2008 17:33:18 GMT -5
Ah ah, shawn, Jason and Kim do share a hug in the movie - and the hug is is the credits... I don't hug any of my guy friends like that - or stand as close to them as Kim is to Jason at any time. The only person I'm ever that close with is my Husband...
the hints are there, no matter how I want to avoid it
that said.. I've toyed with the idea of a Jason/Kim fic if only to lead into a Tommy/Kim reunion fic *snicker* I'm awful, but that letter gives T/K writers so much ammunition to write about and things to speculate on.
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Post by PrincessKimberlyD on Oct 6, 2008 16:34:54 GMT -5
Ok watch me rant Firstly I really don't believe Kim found another guy, I just don't think it fits, my 2 fav ideas are (but are not limited to) 1. She felt Tommy was slipping away from her and wanted him to be happy (with Kat) 2. she never wrote the letter and it was all some evil villians plot. I mean i can see the point about Kim trying not to hurt Tommy's feelings, but i got the impression of Kim as someone who would at least phone him. It bugged me no end that Tommy didn't even fight for Kim. Even though i understand some of your points about him being too upset. IT STILL bugged me. I am of the personal opion that Kim should have never of left anyway, I mean i don't hate Kat (i hate the Tommy/Kat relationship) but i dont think she was as good a ranger as Kim. The Tommy/Kat relationship was just terrible, it had nothing on the first ever ranger relationship of Tommy and Kimberly. I think the writers made a HUGE mistake with the letter. Also on the note of Kim and Jason having a relationship. To me that is like INCEST!! I've always seen them as having a brother and sister relationship. Anything else is wrong! Well there you go that is my rant
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Post by marisa70 on Oct 6, 2008 23:20:53 GMT -5
Wow, didn't even notice this thread. Thanks for bumping it up.
I've gotta side with the producers angle, and blame them solely because the letter did not fit in naturally. From what I've heard, the letter was a contrivance created to break up Tommy/Kim so they could pair up Kat/Tommy because the Japanese footage they were using had the Red and Pink rangers paired up, so by keeping those colors "together" it made it easier for the show to mix and match the Japanese footage with the American. So, basically, if Amy Jo hadn't left the show, Kim probably would have continued being Pink paired up with a Red Tommy because the Japanese footage would have continued to support that pairing.
Superficial reasoning combined with crap writing that had absolutely no natural progression whatsoever, is why the letter will always suck. And when they tried to make Kat as interchangeable with Kim like the Pink rangers in the footage, that was the last straw for me as a viewer.
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